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  <pubDate>02/22/05, 053 42 2005 2005:%i:1109094150 12:42:30</pubDate>
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    <title>Wops  said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Just another newbie to complete css design...<br /><br />After days of trial and error, trying to get<br />http://www.workorder.se/<br />to look good in netscape/firefox etc.<br /><br />It looks as I wish in IE, all code validates, but have problems with nesting boxes, divs paddings, margins etc. So I had a shot at removing all padding and margins and resulted in this<br />http://www.workorder.se/firefox.asp<br />and there I don't get columns.<br /><br />Suggestions ?<br /><br />Cheers / Peter<br /><br />p.s. Thanks for a truly great and informative site :-}]]></description>
    <pubDate>02/22/05, 053 42 2005 2005:%i:1109094150 12:42:30</pubDate>
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    <title>Joe Gillespie said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><strong>wops said:</strong><br />
<br />After days of trial and error, trying to get<br />http://www.workorder.se/<br />to look good in netscape/firefox etc.<br /><br />It looks as I wish in IE, all code validates, </blockquote><br /><br />No it doesn't...<br /><br />http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&amp;uri=http%3A//www.workorder.se/<br /><br />How can you say it validates?]]></description>
    <pubDate>02/22/05, 053 06 2005 2005:%i:1109106382 16:06:22</pubDate>
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    <title>Wops  said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Ahh, sorrry I wasn't clear enough, <br /><br />http://www.workorder.se/firefox asp validates but looks like something the cat would've done, <br /><br />both http://www.workorder.se/wo_basic.css and http://www.workorder.se/css/wo_basic.css validates.<br /><br />The home page http://www.workorder.se/index.asp looks in i.e. like the final result I want to achieve, even though it doesn't validate. The problem I have is automatic box width, relative position, z-index (I think), float and height with lines that stretch from top to bottom.<br /><br />We have the same look and feel on all our prints, just wanted the web to be the same.<br /><br />There is no challenge in doing this with frames or tables, the challenge is css, which I'm under the impression is the future.<br /><br />Cheers / Peter S.]]></description>
    <pubDate>02/23/05, 054 21 2005 2005:%i:1109150465 04:21:05</pubDate>
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    <title>Joe Gillespie said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[There is no reason why you would need to use z-index for this design. In most instances, layer stacking is automatic and is only relevant to absolute positioning anyway.<br /><br />Your problem is with the basic box structure but I can't go into all the ins and outs of it here. Check out the CSS layout tutorials at<br /><br />http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/wpd0204news.htm#feature]]></description>
    <pubDate>02/23/05, 054 40 2005 2005:%i:1109151603 04:40:03</pubDate>
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    <title>Wops  said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[I had confused a couple of things,<br />Div and div is not the same, nor is Class and class.<br />Thus, ids in Firefox and IE behave differently. In firefox they are case sensitive, but in IE not. The capitalizing of f.ex. LeftColumn is a leftover in me from Delphi semantics and readabiliy, but I wasn't consistent in writing the css and using it.<br /><br />Now just one problem remains, height.<br />Pls take a look again. I have one box #PageBase gray background, then one box #ContentBase slightly smaller, white background, and then three columns inside. Apparently the box with the white background doesn't calculate the height equally in firefox and ie. Why?<br /><br />A new much more compliant page at:<br />http://www.workorder.se/index.asp<br /><br />cheers / Peter]]></description>
    <pubDate>02/23/05, 054 36 2005 2005:%i:1109194612 16:36:52</pubDate>
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    <title>Joe Gillespie said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[It's the height: 100% that is ambiguous. Note the IE handles line spacing differently from other broswers too a any given block of text will be different in IE and other browsers. You can not depend on a column of text being the same height in different browsers. On the web, you have to design to accomodate this by using flexible layouts.]]></description>
    <pubDate>02/24/05, 055 42 2005 2005:%i:1109230933 02:42:13</pubDate>
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    <title>Wops  said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Somehow #ContentBase doesn't understand that there is content within. Regardless what I try, now I'm stuck &nbsp; ???. I want #ContentBase to understand that it is a block around other containers.]]></description>
    <pubDate>02/24/05, 055 37 2005 2005:%i:1109237865 04:37:45</pubDate>
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    <title>Wops  said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[And the solution was <br />display: table;<br /><br />now it behaves equally in IE and FireFox. &nbsp;<img src="/images/emoticons/cool.png" class="smiley" /><br /><br />Thanks for all the help.<br /><br />/Peter]]></description>
    <pubDate>02/24/05, 055 45 2005 2005:%i:1109241914 05:45:14</pubDate>
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