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    <title>Tboss_hidalgo  said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Hi everyone!<br /><br />I am so glad to have found this site - great source of informations and ideas!<br /><br />I am a starting designer. I have a degree in Fine Arts but never really get to practice it for personal reasons. Then, when I moved to Canada a year ago I thought of finally using my degree and went to study Computer Graphics and Web Media course to update my skills. <br /><br />I am already 32 yrs. old. While I believe one is never too late to change career and do what you've always love doing, I want to get your thoughts on whether I have a &nbsp;future in computer graphic design and whether I can still get into this field successfully.<br /><br />Thanks in advance. &nbsp;]]></description>
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    <title>Joe Gillespie said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><strong>tboss_hidalgo said:</strong><br />
<br />I am already 32 yrs. old. While I believe one is never too late to change career and do what you've always love doing, I want to get your thoughts on whether I have a &nbsp;future in computer graphic design and whether I can still get into this field successfully.</blockquote><br /><br />Well, I was considerably older than 32 when I changed to computer graphics from Magic Markers. If it's something you love doing, you are half way there already.<br /><br />The BIG difference between fine art and graphic design is that you can't just do your own thing. There are these people called 'clients' who want to work you like a puppet and you have to do their merry dance with a broad smile. Pull faces in the privacy of your own home <br /> <img src="/images/emoticons/sidesmile.png" class="smiley" />]]></description>
    <pubDate>05/10/04, 131 55 2004 2004:%i:1084193748 08:55:48</pubDate>
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    <title>Scott Daniel said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[hey, i&#39;m looking for someone to design me a website... Can you help me with this?<br />
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    <pubDate>10/24/07, 297 56 2007 2007:%i:1193205390 01:56:30</pubDate>
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    <title>Scott Daniel said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[hey, i&#39;m looking for someone to design me a website... Can you help me with this?<br />
]]></description>
    <pubDate>10/24/07, 297 57 2007 2007:%i:1193205473 01:57:53</pubDate>
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    <title>Pamela Kamphuis said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Hello-<br />
What sort of web site do you need? Big, small, informational, ecommerce, etc.?]]></description>
    <pubDate>10/24/07, 297 29 2007 2007:%i:1193243398 12:29:58</pubDate>
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    <title>Kenneth Smallfield said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[I think website designer is cool coz can do work at home, no boss around or can do do do, right?<br />
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i&#39;m taking my major in website in year 2 now and only finish in two year coming but while i&#39;m studying, i do graphic work to pay my study fee...]]></description>
    <pubDate>10/26/07, 299 20 2007 2007:%i:1193383210 03:20:10</pubDate>
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    <title>Kenneth Smallfield said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[I think website designer is cool coz can do work at home, no boss around or can do do do, right?<br />
<br />
i&#39;m taking my major in website in year 2 now and only finish in two year coming but while i&#39;m studying, i do graphic work to pay my study fee...]]></description>
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    <title>Mei Santos said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
<br />
I&#39;m a web designer, just stated freelancing. I have no idea how to price a project. I have my first prospect intend to know how much I charge for updating a website with pictures & text content provided,about 10 pages, the timeframe is 4 days. Can any one who has experiences let me know how to price this project?<br />
<br />
Thank you.<br />
<br />
I appreciate it.]]></description>
    <pubDate>10/26/07, 299 33 2007 2007:%i:1193427211 15:33:31</pubDate>
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    <title>Cesar Perez said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Mei,<br />
<br />
Take a look at this thread: <a class="external" href="http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/business/guidelines_for_pricing_work/">http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/business/guidelines_for_pricing_work/</a><br />
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You&#39;ll probably find some great ideas within it for your pricing guidelines.]]></description>
    <pubDate>10/29/07, 302 59 2007 2007:%i:1193666360 09:59:20</pubDate>
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    <title>Paul Goddard said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Im trying to be do freelance while im doing a degree course but i cant seem to get any clients. I&#39;ve tried sending letters, phoneing people and even just going in to places and asking but nothing seems to work. Do you have any tips on choosing and getting perspective customers? <br />
<br />
Im guessing most clients wouldnt go through your own website by searching on google. Also how should you design your design companies website? mine - <a href="http://www.makeaimpact.co.uk" class="external">www.makeaimpact.co.uk</a> is based on a buiness point of view but it doesnt show off my true graphics skills is there a way to compromise the two?<br />
<br />
Thanks]]></description>
    <pubDate>11/07/07, 311 42 2007 2007:%i:1194446571 09:42:51</pubDate>
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    <title>Cesar Perez said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Paul,<br />
<br />
I also had a tough time getting clients to start with.  Since I was freelancing alone, I did design my own site but as my ideas have become more stale I don&#39;t feel comfortable designing sites for others at the moment.  Once I can take pride in my own work, then I&#39;ll get back to freelancing.<br />
<br />
Sorry, I seem to have gotten a little sidetracked there.  In my experience, the best way to get started is primarily just word-of-mouth advertising.  How you want to accomplish this is up to you, but I ended up giving away my services almost for free for my first few clients.  Once they saw the quality of my work they were more willing to call me back or recommend me to other people.  Of course, the first hit was free, but they had to pay for the supply <img src="/images/emoticons/wink.png" class="smiley" /><br />
<br />
Let the design of the site (it&#39;s layout, colors, etc) showcase your design skills, while the copy details your business practices.  You can still make compelling sites which have the consumer in mind but are pushing the envelope of the medium&#39;s practices.]]></description>
    <pubDate>11/07/07, 311 48 2007 2007:%i:1194468493 15:48:13</pubDate>
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    <title>Linton Marcowich said:</title>
    <link>http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/miscellaneous/starting_graphicweb_designer/#p2252</link>
    <description><![CDATA[Indigo multimedia is an award winning Web Design Newcastle Upon Tyne , DVD&#39;s, Video and CD&#39;s. Indigo also offers a full digital media service to public and private sector clients.]]></description>
    <pubDate>03/10/08, 070 09 2008 2008:%i:1205143754 06:09:14</pubDate>
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    <title>Michael Mitchell said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Hello, I am new to this forum. I am trying to find a job that will help me start a career in web design. I am going to college to learn web and game designing/programming. I only have the basic knowledge of web designing right now. I know HTML, XHTML (same as XML?), and CSS. I am working on CSS, XHTML, and now I am working on forms at my college. I am wondering if there are any jobs that will pay someone to do some basic web sites. If so, please help me get those kinds of jobs. I would appreciate all the help I can get to get into my journey of web designing. <img src="/images/emoticons/smile.png" class="smiley" /> If you want to email me, my email address is vietasianfox45@gmail.com. Hope to hear from you soon.]]></description>
    <pubDate>03/14/08, 074 37 2008 2008:%i:1205512676 12:37:56</pubDate>
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    <title>Jadedea Jade said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Hi everyone, I just tried to start a thread but it just says "pass" when I click the button.<br />
<br />
Anyways, what are some good tools, software, and other things a beginner should have under their belt for web page design.<br />
<br />
Right now I have Windows Vista, and I have Paint. So should I happily mark that off my checklist or throw it out the windows? lol<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
<br />
Jade]]></description>
    <pubDate>03/16/08, 076 40 2008 2008:%i:1205653207 03:40:07</pubDate>
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    <title>Mike Crone said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Before you even think about designing pages, you should learn HTML and CSS. These are the foundations needed to design web pages.<br />
<br />
As to software, all you really need is a text editor and a graphics program (Paint won&#39;t really cut it).<br />
<br />
Graphics programs:<br />
GIMP (free)<br />
Paint Shop Pro (medium price)<br />
Photoshop (high end)<br />
<br />
HTML editors:<br />
Crimson Editor (free text editor)<br />
CoffeeCup HTML Editor (low priced)<br />
Dreamweaver (high end)<br />
<br />
There are literally hundreds of other programs available but the ones I mentioned above do all have a trial version you can download and try out.<br />
<br />
Mike...]]></description>
    <pubDate>03/17/08, 077 43 2008 2008:%i:1205736230 02:43:50</pubDate>
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    <title>Bob Cally said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Hi <br />
<br />
I’ve come across a tool to add to sites I do that translates everything free (<a href="http://www.appliedlanguage.com/trans/free_quick.aspx" >http://www.appliedlanguage.com/trans/free_quick.aspx</a>), only downside is a link back to the providing site – that I can see of anyway?? Anybody used it or know how good it is??<br />
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    <pubDate>03/19/08, 079 15 2008 2008:%i:1205939722 11:15:22</pubDate>
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    <title>Sad Kar said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[hi<br />
<br />
one webdesinger must be use photoshot, flash, swift3d, swish and must know html, some java, some server languages.<br />
<br />
hmmm, not easy : )]]></description>
    <pubDate>05/06/08, 127 36 2008 2008:%i:1210084561 10:36:01</pubDate>
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    <title>Web Design India said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[You need to study google webmaster guidelines thoroughly. Frankly, they&#39;re the best source of design and SEO information available anywhere.<br />
<br />
You will be a great designer as you have the will. Just start surfing all possible forums and start building contacts.]]></description>
    <pubDate>05/31/08, 152 06 2008 2008:%i:1212246370 11:06:10</pubDate>
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    <title>Stever From Axemedia said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Yes, the big forums are the place to learn. <a href="http://forums.digitalpoint.com/" class="external">Digital Point</a> & <a href="http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/" class="external">Site Point</a> come to mind.<br />
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Learn HTML as well as basic graphics creation with PhotoShop or Adobe Illustrator (expensive but ripped versions are a plenty)<br />
<br />
Use an HTML editor like dreamweaver or even MS Front Page to start if you must. It&#39;ll create code for you. Shitty code but its a start. After building a few start looking at the code and you will slowly learn. Then eventually you wont need an editor and can hand code in NotePad. Better and cleaner code than a WYSIWYG editor.<br />
<br />
For graphics just learn how to do gradients and that can cover 90% of what you need to create nice designs.<br />
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Learn some Search Engine Optimization basics or else nobody will ever get to see your websites.<br />
<br />
Oh, and to the original poster, 32 ain&#39;t too late. I was 35 when I started. And my background had nothing to do with design or computers really. But was always interested in many aspects of design and marketing. Read a fuller story on <a href="http://stever.ca/about/" class="external">the about page of my blog</a>.<br />
<br />
<strong>Big Pro Tip</strong> = <em>Dual Monitors!</em> Improves productivity big time. Write code in one screen and refresh and view it in browser in the other. Instead of hunting for windows in you start menu.<br />
<br />
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    <pubDate>06/07/08, 159 12 2008 2008:%i:1212840730 08:12:10</pubDate>
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    <title>Creativity Unlimited said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[I am Michael Bowler, only 22, the owner/operator of Creativity Unlimited. Creativity Unlimited started as a dream of mine. I have been working in the creative services field as a freelancer for three years. I started part time, working for other freelancers. When I found out how much I loved it, and realized I was good at it, I started my plans to work in the creative services field full time. That is where Creativity Unlimited was born. <br />
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I say that to say this: You are never too young or too old, and it is never too early or too late. If you&#39;re doing what you love, you&#39;ve beaten half the battle. If you&#39;re good at it, that&#39;s another 25% of the battle. (Now we&#39;re at 75%.) If there&#39;s a will, there&#39;s a way. (I guess that covers the other 25%.) Remember, if you love what you do, you never work a day in your life.<br />
<br />
While I&#39;m here, if anyone has any questions or needs any work done in the way of any type of writing, web design, business solutions and materials, advertising, marketing, research, and/or public speaking, please contact me. You can click my name to visit my blog, or the company name to visit my main website.]]></description>
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    <title>Rob  Perry said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[RP Design offer professional web design and a wide range of digital marketing services suc as search engine optimisation, PPC campaigns, social media and email marketing. <br />
<br />
We will shortly be offering web design tips and HTML scripts. If your into web design you should check it out]]></description>
    <pubDate>04/21/09, 111 16 2009 2009:%i:1240352210 18:16:50</pubDate>
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    <title>Michael Carson said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[As you are a starter, just get some knowledge and services from the professionals. The good place to get services is from Mineeds.com. Just post your request and gets bids from it!!]]></description>
    <pubDate>06/19/09, 170 26 2009 2009:%i:1245414407 08:26:47</pubDate>
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    <title>Chilton Jones said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[yes you are right your age is now at the stage where you cant change the profession..so keep moving with it and its really creative and interesting work...]]></description>
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    <title>Jo Devizes said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[If anybody is looking for a comprehensive web building program, try XSitePro. It does just about everything you will need.]]></description>
    <pubDate>06/24/09, 175 41 2009 2009:%i:1245865278 13:41:18</pubDate>
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    <title>Bobby Lim said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[sure u can.....<img src="/images/emoticons/smile.png" class="smiley" /><br />
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i also start to learning web design]]></description>
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    <title>Jeff Burnz said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[A low risk start to help build your portfolio and earn some money at the same time is to get involved with my new crowd sourcing project - we do not ask for spec work and you will be paid good money for great work - <a class="external" href="http://adaptivethemes.com">http://adaptivethemes.com</a>]]></description>
    <pubDate>06/30/09, 181 08 2009 2009:%i:1246374529 11:08:49</pubDate>
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    <title>Chris Strupp said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[It&#39;s never too late, but after just joining ths site today I have found it a huge help. I look forward to talking to you on here sometime.]]></description>
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    <title>Jumi Ram said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Hello Tboss_hidalgo,<br />
               age is not at all problem for your career. If you are interested then you will achieve more and more, you don&#39;t want to care about your age. Firstly, you have to dedicate well in your work and keep researching on that, Please don&#39;t waste time by thinking about your age. If you are fit to the industry, you will be top in months.<br />
My Wishes...<br />
Thank You.<br />
jumi]]></description>
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    <title>Ken Liang said:</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[The best way to get started in the web design industry is to learn the technical things like HTML and CSS first. If you want to do so quickly you can try training videos from Total Training or Lynda.com. You will need a website portfolio so offer a couple of free websites to your friends, relatives or local businesses.]]></description>
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