Floating Layer Script and Apple Mac | WPDFD.com Forums http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/ A Scripting forum thread at WPDFD.com en-us 02/24/04, 055 21 2004 2004:%i:1077639676 11:21:16 06/07/13, 158 15 2013 2013:%i:1370596510 05:15:10 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss NineLabs Framework Feed Generator sitemaster@wpdfd.com sitemaster@wpdfd.com Flaxen said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p533 Mac's.

Having not seen the phenomenon, I can only say that I was told that it 'bounces' annoyingly instead of gliding into place.

If anyone can tell me of any previous experience of this or similar I would be interested.

]]> 02/24/04, 055 21 2004 2004:%i:1077639676 11:21:16 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p533 Baxter said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p534 02/24/04, 055 27 2004 2004:%i:1077640043 11:27:23 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p534 Flaxen said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p535
www.highgroundcoffee.co.uk]]> 02/24/04, 055 31 2004 2004:%i:1077640305 11:31:45 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p535 Baxter said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p536 02/24/04, 055 47 2004 2004:%i:1077641248 11:47:28 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p536 Flaxen said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p537 02/24/04, 055 01 2004 2004:%i:1077642110 12:01:50 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p537 Joe Gillespie said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p538 Baxter said:
grab one of the well-documented scripts to trick IE into accepting the position:fixed rule.

I wouldn't advise that. Hacks like this might work today but Microsoft have a habit of bringing out 'security updates' that change such behaviours. It's okay to use 'workarounds' to get round some of IEs many problems - such a s NOT using left and right padding, but using hacks to provide critical functionality like navigation is really inviting trouble.
]]> 02/24/04, 055 36 2004 2004:%i:1077644192 12:36:32 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p538 Flaxen said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p539
I've been searching Google for days trying to find something, anything to point me in the right direction....and all it's doing is stressing me out!]]> 02/24/04, 055 48 2004 2004:%i:1077644892 12:48:12 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p539 Joe Gillespie said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p540
First, validate the HTML. You can just enter a URL or you can upload the file if it's not online at W3C HTML Validator. This will help identify any problems on the page. I can see that you have some because your pages can't validate.

Next, validate the CSS. Same way at W3C CSS Validator.

The, validate the JavaScript. You can use Mozilla, Netscape 7 or FireFox to do this.

Hopefully, these tests will help identify where the problem is so that you can fix it.

There are some problems that are down to bugs (or just lack of feature support) in individual browsers. You soon get to know what they are but the most serious ones are in Explorer at the minute - Windows and Mac.]]> 02/24/04, 055 19 2004 2004:%i:1077646767 13:19:27 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p540 Baxter said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p541 02/24/04, 055 42 2004 2004:%i:1077648177 13:42:57 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p541 Flaxen said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p542

Am currently trying to validate all my pages on the site, and otherwise running through the suggestions made by the Admin......hampered by the fact that my PC had a strange fit the other night (incidentally I found 2 instances of a virus I'm still trying to track down the source of...damn those pesky kids using my PC!) and I'm currently trying to find time to re-image my Windows installation and re-install all my bits and pieces.

I'm sure that within the next few days I will have a few more questions as to why my pages won't validate!  


]]> 02/26/04, 057 59 2004 2004:%i:1077821988 13:59:48 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p542 Baxter said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p543
Now, as for your problem, I still maintain that the small and well-documented IE fixed-positioning fix is a much more acceptable solution than the whole passel o' Javascript you have going now. It's small, bandwidth friendly, well-known, predictable and degrades gracefully. When (if) Microsoft ever supports position:fixed, you can remove all traces of your workaround by removing ONE line of code. At any rate, even if the code doesn't work, it won't jam up your navigation, it just won't stay fixed in place.

Or how bout forgetting the script altogether, and people on decent browsers get the fixed menu, and stupid IE doesn't.

Right now you've got how many javascripts working that site? Honestly, I'm not sure why you need ANY, unless there's some function in there I'm not seeing.
Certainly one could do it.

And before you even bother validating, have a go-though on your source code. Once you think it's clean, then have the validator go at it.]]> 02/26/04, 057 07 2004 2004:%i:1077822456 14:07:36 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p543 Flaxen said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p544
I'd be quite happy having written the shopping cart software and making all that work for them, not to be messing about with completely useless, unnecessary rubbish (I'm not a bells and whistles person, I like functionality first and appeal second as a whole) but you know what they say: 'The customer is always right....'

And I actually only have 2 scripts running, one for the form validation at the checkout, and one, which admittedly, is split into 2 sections, running that supposedly floating layer menu..The reason it is split into 2 is not entirely clear to me, but it was the only way I could get it work at all ( my Javascript skills are still in their infancy, unfortunately)]]> 02/26/04, 057 29 2004 2004:%i:1077823782 14:29:42 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p544 Baxter said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p545
I'm not saying it's the only way to do it, or even the best way, but it's a start.]]> 02/26/04, 057 33 2004 2004:%i:1077827584 15:33:04 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p545 Hitthosekeys said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p546 Well, a simple position:fixed will set you up in everything BUT IE. As for IE, take a look at this:http://devnull.tagsoup.com/fixed/
 
Related to the link Baxter posted, here's a fixed layer example:

http://66.201.73.13/mxvision/fixednav/fixedbar.htm]]> 02/28/04, 059 25 2004 2004:%i:1077981949 10:25:49 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p546 Flaxen said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p547
Still working on validating everything, to see if I've just hit a weird quirk, but if you have any insight into this, I'd love to know.]]> 03/01/04, 061 23 2004 2004:%i:1078132984 04:23:04 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p547 Baxter said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p548 03/01/04, 061 37 2004 2004:%i:1078151835 09:37:15 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p548 Flaxen said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p549
Have a look at this example I found that might help you understand what I mean, if my script isn't working right for you.

http://www.echoecho.com/toolfloatinglayer.htm]]> 03/01/04, 061 01 2004 2004:%i:1078164104 13:01:44 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p549 Baxter said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p550
I would just set it to fixed position and move on. Sorry I'm not more help than that.]]> 03/01/04, 061 51 2004 2004:%i:1078174311 15:51:51 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p550 Flaxen said: http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p551
Then I'll give up! ]]> 03/01/04, 061 11 2004 2004:%i:1078179073 17:11:13 http://www.wpdfd.com/forums/wpdfd/scripting/floating_layer_script_and_apple_mac/#p551